Showing posts with label milk house heater. Show all posts
Showing posts with label milk house heater. Show all posts

Saturday, February 23, 2013

we had a visitor to the greenhouse

On February2, 2013 Nathan and I attended a planning meeting for the Deep Winter Producers Association.  This was the first meeting of a small group of people growing or interested in growing produce in the winter.  It was a chance to share ideas and create a supportive network of like-minded people. Go here to read Chuck's comments on the meeting.  While we were there we met a gentleman named Bob who is interested in building a greenhouse.  He talked about incorporating hydroponic growing in the greenhouse that he is planning.  He has a background and working knowledge in home heating and the duct work that carries warm air in a house. 

We shared with the group our attempts to keep our growing space warm without supplemental heat.  We had plants that germinated on the heat mats but they did not grow.  Our growing space would warm up nicely on sunny days but cool too much overnight.  Our water containers were not up to the task of keeping the space warm overnight and by morning it would be cold. 

On the first of the year it became obvious that what we were doing was not enough and we started using a milk house heater to add warmth overnight.  This was sufficient to keep the greenhouse near or above freezing on all but the coldest nights.  In our discussions with the group we learned that they were keeping their growing spaces at or above 40 degrees.  Bob had an idea that we could enclose our water containers and then capture the warmest air at the ceiling and circulate it around the enclosed water containers.  At the close of the meeting Bob followed us home and visited with us about his suggestions.  He has graciously agreed to correspond via email and answer some of our questions as we go forth with implementing his suggestions.

This was three weeks ago and we have since had another couple days of really cold weather.  We did add a second heater and that kept the water thawed in the containers.  Some of the plants are starting to appreciate the longer days and higher angle of the sun and are perking up and starting to grow.  I am cautiously optimistic that we can make this work.

Sunday, January 6, 2013

supplemental heat--it's working

Today is January 6.  We started using the milk house heater at night on New Year's Day.  Today, like the past couple mornings it is above freezing despite overnight temperatures outdoors in the single digits or near zero.  Today at daybreak:



The little seedlings aren't showing growth yet but I have hope.  BSH (before supplemental heat) our electronic thermometer which reads the current temp but records the highest and lowest temperatures attained during the 24 hour period would almost always read LL overnight.  The potting mix in the planters would be frozen and there would be a layer of ice in the blue barrels on the surface and sometimes around the inside perimeter.  I do not know for sure at what point the thermometer switches from reading numbers to reading LL but I do know that there have been some number readings in the mid 20s.  Since adding the milk house heater the water in the blue barrels has had no ice form overnight.  Once the current ice melted it has not reformed and there has not been any LL readings recorded overnight. 

Other factors  that must be taken into consideration is that November and December are traditionally less sunny.  In fact, according to the weather calendar on Weather dot com for our zip code December had only one sunny day and less than half of the month was even partly sunny.  There were also nine days where the low was single or double digits below zero.  So far we haven't had a -15 to really test our heater.  January shows a couple of 0 readings but the -12 on New Year's Day was it 1 a.m. (BSH)!

We are also working to fine tune the managing of our heat sink but that deserves it's own post...

Thursday, January 3, 2013

supplemental heat in the greenhouse

It has been cloudy and cold and the greenhouse is not always warming up during the day and is getting below freezing at night.  The seedlings are not getting bigger.  Our plan was to try to keep the greenhouse at or above freezing without supplemental heat.

Our efforts so far:

We have containers of water to use as heat sink.   Right now we have 36 cat litter boxes and 30 mushroom boxes filled with water.  We also have four 55 gallon barrels filled with water.  We are in the process of covering the fronts and sides of the boxes  with black tape to hopefully help the water absorb more heat.  We are also hoping that the porcelain tile floor and the dirt in the planters will absorb warmth.  We have passed the solstice and the days will be getting longer and the nights shorter.

We have scattered five thermometers around the growing area looking for cold spots and warm spots. The thermometers are sitting in different locations and at different heights.  So far they don't have permanent locations.  There is one near the glazing at table height, one in a planter at about six feet in the air, and three that have been moved around trying to measure the east and west corners and the north wall at different heights.


What we know:

On a cloudy day the temperatures throughout the greenhouse are pretty consistent. On a sunny day the temperatures can vary significantly, as much as 20 degrees or more of difference when it is moderately sunny. Since we added the additional thermometers we haven't had any really sunny days yet, so it may vary even more.

When there is a difference it is consistently cooler near the glazing.  The warmest area that was measured is in the center of the room at about six feet in the air. It is probably warmer still near the rafters and roof.

When we had heat sink buckets on the south wall below the glazing, those buckets had more ice than the buckets on the north wall.  The air temperature in that area is lower and that area is not hit directly by the sunlight coming in through the glazing.  Plan A had been to line the area below the glazing with the pallet tables and put the heat sink buckets under the tables and plants on top of the tables.  As the greenhouse filled with plants the gutter planters would be hung from the rafters and the table would hold larger containers with bigger plants. Now that we know that is the coolest part of the greenhouse at least in the cloudy short days of late fall and early winter, we may have to rethink that plan.

All of the heat sink buckets are now on the north wall. They are stacked three deep.  In moving them around to apply the tape it is apparent that in the buckets that I was working on, the top row of buckets have no ice or less ice than the bottom row of buckets.  I did not check all of the buckets only the few in the center of the room that I was taping.  A new question then is why the lower buckets are colder.  Is it because they are closer to the floor?  Is it because there were tables with planters in front of the stack that prevented direct sunlight from hitting the lower buckets?  Now the tables have been moved into the middle of the room to allow greater exposure to the sun.  I think there will be a lot of trial and error in finding our way this first growing season.

On New Year's Day we purchased this:





Commonly known as a milk house heater, this is a small electric heater used to provide supplemental heat to farm buildings.  It has two settings, high and low, and a dial type thermostat.  Even on high it doesn't put out a large amount of heat but I am hopeful that between this heater and the heat sink we can keep the growing area above freezing on most nights.